Saints 2023 Week 7 Recap

Ethen Meyers • October 20, 2023

The Recap- Saints Vs Jaguars

        The Saints seemed out of sorts, more missed field goals, more defensive turnovers putting the offense in good positions to score, and more red zone struggles. Despite a near comeback late, and some promising offensive poise near the end, the finger pointing is still at an all time high by fans.... Let's get into the recap.


Team Stats

(Saints/Jaguars)

Final Score: 24-31

First downs: 25 - 18

3rd down efficiency: 3/18 - 2/11

Total yards: 407 - 330

Red Zone Efficiency: 2/5 - 2/2

Penalties: 3 for 34 Yards - 5 for 42 yards 

Turnovers: 1 - 2

Time of possession: 36:10 - 23:50


Takeaways

Offense


        It has been said over and over again, the Saints offense is too talented to look this out of sorts. You can cite play calling issues, miscues, and bad reads all the same. The consistent issues are week after week and they were still present tonight against the Jaguars. Derek Carr has a lot of on his plate trying to make miracles happen while the running game still seems to not be living up to the hype.


        Offensive lines struggles didn't look as bad as expected. A few times we saw Penning come in on some jumbo packages which gives hope that the Saints coaching staff have not completely given up on the former first round pick. It was also pretty fun to see big #99 Saunders out there taking a break from defensive snaps and playing fullback. The desire to mix things up is there, but the execution has still fell short. I was also presently surprised by the newest member of the offensive line, Cameron Erving, staying available and he came with a certain bounce in his step that was nice to see.


        A few plays it looked like Carr was seeing a read a step too late which led to passes looking forced or making Jaguars secondary players look like pro bowlers. Aside from the misreads, miscommunication also bled through into yet another week. The Saints offense has been around each other enough, and Saints fans have had enough of the same issues. The "boo birds" were loud and present, and the Saints offense has to get it together in order to pull way in a currently crowded NFC South. The short passing game was a little more exercised this week, and it was nice to see that but the offense still lacks a certain rhythm that we saw start to groove at the end, I feel if they carry that over into next week, we may be on to something.


Defense


        When I write "The defense found a way to give the offense the push it needed" most people may think it was turnovers, good field position, and other things like that. Nope, it was big #99 Khalen Saunders bouncing around and running into guys playing fullback. It was a glorious drive full of the energy we have come so use to seeing around the defense near the goal line, and the Saints finally punched it in with Taysom Hill on 4th down with Saunders as the lead blocker.


        Now on to the actual defense, secondary play was good, defensive line was good, line backers were good. We are spoiled by this defense and despite giving up two early touchdowns to Etienne, the Saints defense buckled down after that not allowing another. The only other score came on a pick 6 that I am willing to bet if Saunders was out there, he would have found a way to get a fumble after the interception and run it for 99 yards and score a touchdown (not really, but we need to find the light).


        I still remain incredibly impressed with the young guys on the line. Cameron Jordan is likely smiling every time he gets less protection in his face with the dominance spread across the line. In general, the Saints defense feels very young with a few potential HOFers in the veteran roles. They have their share of penalties that seem to extend drives, but as many stats will tell you that is a tell tale sign of an aggressive defense. Unfortunately, when the Saints needed it the most the defense gave up what looked like a very easy touchdown to Kirk to seal the game after a short punt. I don't put a lot of this loss on them, but still dropped one when it mattered the most.


Saints Stock Exchange (Sponsored By… Nobody)

Just a quick hit section each week to highlight which Saints players have their stock value increasing and decreasing after each game, 3 up and 3 down:


Stock Up

Khalen Saunders

Foster Moreau/Taysom Hill

Offensive Line


        Did you really think we would have anyone else but Saunders here? Come on, the guy was responsible for a much needed touchdown in a position he doesn't get paid for.

FOOTBALL. PLAYER. No further questions.


        Juwan Johnson misses another game, as expected on a short week. Moreau has stepped up and made himself available a lot where you want him. On the other hand, our other tight end/football player did A LOT that a winning player does. I could not choose because Hill provided that explosiveness you needed, but Moreau provided that constant you need from a backup TE. I know he had a late game drop that someone might argue "cost us the game" but there is a lot more plays you can point out, and I can't let that take away from everything else he did tonight filling in yet again for our TE1.


        After seeing all the news the last week and some change about the offensive line, I am shocked they are up for me but they are. They seemed to be a lot more in sync and while the run game left something to be desired they still played well considering all the changes and new faces in new places. To add, I don't think all the run game can be put on the line, when you quit on the run early it is hard to get anything going later.



Stock Down
Blake Grupe

Lou Hedley 

Chris Olave


        Just going to lump Grupe/Hedley into one. They are both rookies, one a just little younger than the next. They have time to grow, and while I want to still have faith at least Grupe will turn it around, but he is making that harder week after week. Grupe has too many misses to be trusted, and Hedley's punts feel to be right into into a running lane or short too often. The crucial down for Hedley is obviously the punt that set up the Jaguars with short field position which resulted in the score that sealed it.


        I don't love putting Olave here, but I have to. While the passes to him were not perfect, it feels like Derek Carr still wants him as a main target and he seems to quit too often. He is still very young and has a huge career ahead of him, I expect him to be on the up list more often than the down. He is clearly extremely talented, he just needs to mentally lock in.


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By David Rainey July 19, 2025
It’s that time of year again. The excitement of All-Star weekend and the Homerun Derby are behind us, and it’s on to the second half of the MLB season. This is the time where the great teams separate themselves from the good teams. It’s the time for teams to show whether they should be considered contenders or pretenders. And with this time of the year, of course, comes the MLB trade deadline. Arguably the most intriguing trade deadline of all the major sports. Fringe teams will have to decide whether to be buyers or sellers, and the great teams will mortgage their futures for one player they believe will take them to the promise land. Now, as out of left-field as the ending to this year’s All-Star weekend was (raise your hand if you also weren’t aware that swing offs were a thing), the MLB trade deadline features something much more curious. The Player to Be Named Later. You see, as most of us know, it’s extremely common in Major League Baseball for a team like the Padres, for example, to sell off a handful of their top prospects at the trade deadline for a lefty reliever they hope will help them navigate the difficult waters that is the postseason. But what some people aren’t aware of (outside of us baseball nerds of course) is the use of something, or someone more specifically, called the “Player to Be Named Later (PTBNL)” in these trade scenarios. For those of you who don’t know, here’s a quick explanation of what exactly the phrase “Player to Be Named Later” means. In baseball, when a team isn’t sure exactly which prospect they want in return or when they are trying to finesse the roster management rules, they will accept a “Player to Be Named Later” in return in a trade. This gives that team the opportunity to further evaluate players and choose who they want in return at a later date. This doesn’t mean that the team will just be able to choose a superstar down the road, there are limitations placed on who can be chosen, and most of the time the player ends up being just another player lost in baseball lore. However, sometimes these PTBNL turn out to be more than just a journeyman or even lead to oddities that only baseball can provide. So, what are the most famous cases of Players to Be Named Later? Well, I’m glad you asked. Let’s start with the not so unexpected scenario that actually led to the PTBNL rules to be changed. Trea Turner Before 2015, there was a rule in place in the MLB in which prevented players from being traded for a year after being drafted. Trea Turner was drafted by the San Diego Padres in the first round of the 2014 Draft which meant, you guessed it, he wasn’t eligible to be traded until the following year. However, in December of 2014 the Padres, Nationals, and Rays agreed to mega-deal that involved 11 players AND a Player to Be Named Later. So, what does this have to do with Turner? Well, everyone was aware of who that PTBNL would be. Trea Turner. But as I mentioned before, he wasn’t allowed to be traded yet. So Turner had to spend the beginning of the next season playing for the Padres who had already traded him. This led to a rule change in MLB before the next draft to avoid this situation ever playing out again. But where is Trea Turner now? He’s certainly no journeyman. He had an incredible start to his career with the Nationals, before being traded (again) to the Dodgers with Max Scherzer in 2021. He eventually signed a $300 million deal with the Phillies where he still plays and remains one of the best players in Major League Baseball. But is he the best PTBNL of all time? Not quite. David Ortiz Big Papi. Ever heard of him? Sure you have. But did you know he wasn’t always the mashing lefty for the Red Sox that we know and love? That’s right. Early on in David Ortiz’s career he actually struggled to find a place in the league; and at one point, was even a Player to Be Named Later in a trade. He actually started his career with the Seattle Mariners, but he doesn’t mean much to the Mariners franchise outside of being a PTBNL in a trade in 1996 with the Minnesota Twins for Dave Hollins. As a matter of fact, not only was Ortiz not the player we know on the field, he wasn’t even David Ortiz on paper. At the time, he was actually known as David Arias. You might be thinking, “Wow. The Mariners really traded BIG PAPI.” Trust me when I tell that the Twins feel even worse. Ortiz would play a handful of seasons for the Twins from 1997-2002; however, even after a solid season in 2002 with the Twins, they would go on to RELEASE Ortiz. That’s right. Even one of the greatest players to ever step foot on a baseball diamond was not only traded as PTBNL but was also outright released. Of course in 2003, David Ortiz would go on to join the Boston Red Sox. Ten All-Star games, 3 World Series Championships, a World Series MVP, and a Hall of Fame selection later, David Ortiz would go down in baseball history as one of the most feared batters of all time, and the legend we know him as today Big Papi. What is the oddest Player to Be Named Later situation? There is a rare, but always delightfully bizarre situation in which a player is traded for himself as a Player to Be Named Later. This hilariously absurd scenario is so rare that it has only happened four times in the history of Major League Baseball. Harry Chiti – traded from the then Cleveland Indians to the Mets in 1962 for a PTBNL. However, he was so bad that the Mets decided trade him back to Cleveland as the PTBNL Brad Gulden – traded (with $100,000) from the Yankees to the Mariners for Larry Milbourne and a PTBNL in 1980. Once again, he performed so poorly that the Mariners traded him back to New York as the PTBNL in the original trade. Are you sensing a theme? Dickie Noles – In 1987 the Cubs traded him to the Tigers for a Player to Be Named Later. Sadly, he didn’t do enough during the Tigers playoff run that year for them to want to keep him around. So, they shipped back to the Windy City to complete the trade as the PTBNL. John McDonald – The most recent example. He was acquired by Detroit, who clearly didn’t learn anything in 1987, from the Blue Jays in 2005 for, that’s right, a PTBNL. Later that year, he was sent back to Canada for cash considerations. There you go. Next time you’re hanging out with your buddies on the back porch naming random athletes from your pass, feel free to drop in a “Dickie Noles” reference and explain the wonderful scenario of him being traded for himself. Baseball is such a beautiful sport in so many ways. For many of us, it’s the first sport we play as children, or the sport we remember watching with our grandparents on the living room floor. It has such an iconic and rich history. It’s known as “America’s past time” for a reason. But throughout that history, there are so many things that have happened that can only be described as strange and uniquely baseball. And that’s why we love it. So, when you’re scrolling social media or watching ESPN this trade deadline season and see that stud middle reliever traded for nothing but a Player to Be Named Later, maybe you won’t just brush it off this time around. Maybe you’ll wait to see who that player becomes, and maybe they’ll end up being another great piece of baseball trivia.
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