Saints 2023 Week 3 Recap

Jamie UK • September 25, 2023

        Brutal, that’s all I can say about this game. The Saints were up 17-0 going into the 4th quarter before hemorrhaging 18 unanswered points in the final quarter to lose 18-17. There are a lot of storylines to take from this game sadly, most of them are bad, so let’s dive in.


Team Stats 

(Saints/Packers)

Final Score: 17-18

First downs: 15 - 21

3rd down efficiency: 4/14 - 8/18

Total yards: 252 - 340

Red Zone Efficiency: 1 / 2 - 2 / 3

Penalties: 7 for 102 yards - 11 for 90 yards 

Turnovers: 1 - 0

Time of possession: 27:25- 32:35


Takeaways


Offense

        A putrid display on offense, is that harsh? Before Derek Carr went down with an injury the Saints had scored 17 first-half points, but frankly it was still awful. Seven of those points were from an excellent punt return from Rashid Shaheed. The offense just looks harder than it should be. Yes, a lot of that has to do with the massive issues with the o-line, but also the play-calling doesn’t look to be helping.



Every yard looks so hard, there’s very little designed quick game. No quick hitters in the passing game to get the offense into a rhythm, and no drive starters to keep them ahead of the sticks. It looks like Pete Carmichael wants to use the running game for this but the run blocking for the second year in a row now is flat-out bad. Pete saw Sean Payton for years use the short passing/scream game as an extension of the run game, I’m not sure why he’s not able to do it as well. It would help the protection issues as the ball would be out faster and would help the Saints avoid 3rd and medium/long where routinely teams have been teeing off on Saints QBs.


It is not like he doesn’t have the right personnel for it, he had the right QB in Carr before he went down. He’s got arguably the best rhythm WR in the NFL in Mike Thomas, add to him Chris Olave who has elite short area quickness/route running, Rashid Shaheed, and Juwan Johnson. I just can’t get my head around why this isn’t the core principle that the offense is built around. Right now, it feels like Pete wants the deep/intermediate passing game to be the primary option and then the quick game to be the fallback. With the o-line playing how it is, with the weapons they have it should be the quick game first with deep shots sprinkled in, not the other way around.


This conundrum only gets harder now with Carr expected to miss some time, quick rhythm passing has never really been Winston’s game (although, ducks for cover I don’t think he was terrible in relief in this area yesterday), so trying to work that into a more focal point of the offense will be harder now than before. The Saints have Kamara back this week and he should bring energy and explosion to the offense but with this QB and play-caller can they use him effectively? 


Defense

        This always felt like an unsustainable model, the Saints defense needed to be perfect for 60 minutes for the team to win, they weren’t perfect today, and no shocker the Saints lost. The defense for 3 quarters was pretty much lights out, being down a starting safety and cornerback didn’t even stop them. 


        However, there were warning signs for the eventual 4th quarter collapse, the Packers had plays where players were at times wide open in crucial situations but were unable to connect. A play early in the game where Luke Musgrave was streaking down the middle of the field and was wide open Love just flat-out missed him. Both the Packers failed 4th down efforts were the right play calls for Gb just poorly executed, especially the first where Jordan Love looked like a baby giraffe trying to take its first steps. Both 4th down-plays had players open if the Packers could have executed better.


        The 2 key areas missing this week for the Saints defense were pass rush and discipline. The pass rush was way too quiet in a game where the opposing o-line was missing 2 starters. This gave Love way too much time and allowed him to be way too comfortable, especially in the second half. The D-line did, however, arguably play their best game defending the run. 


        On the discipline front, it feels unfair to critique and I’m not going to be too harsh but the back-to-back PI penalties on Taylor and Yiadom were killer (although I thought the PI on Yiadom was soft) those penalties cost the Saints 67 yards, and took the Packers from their own 20 to the Saints 13, eventually ending the Packers first touchdown of the game. Unfortunately, Taylor and Yiadom were on the wrong side of those penalties because I think they both were excellent today, Taylor had a massive 5 PBUs, 2 TFLs, and a Sack, and Yiadom for a guy who’s mainly been a special teams player held up well and he was tested often. I’ve included a stat below that illustrates how good they both were in coverage today.


Next Gen Stats on X: "Isaac Yiadom forced the tightest window targets (7) in a game over the last two seasons. His teammate Alontae Taylor also had 5 tight window targets. Yiadom and Taylor allowed a combined 5 receptions on 18 targets, recording 9 total passes defensed. #NOvsGB | #Saints https://t.co/OV66Itbtha" / X (twitter.com)


        The expectations on the defense will only continue to be high going forward, for those expectations to be met the pass rush needs to return to week’s 1-2 levels.


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Just a quick hit section each week to highlight which Saint has their stock value increasing and decreasing after each game, 3 up and 3 down:


Stock up

Chris Olave

Lonnie Johnson Jr

Alontae Taylor


        Olave was excellent again, making a brilliant one-handed grab, showing again the work he did in the offseason was worth it with an excellent contested catch down the right sideline late in the game, Olave looks like an all-pro so far this season. 


        I wanted to give Johnson his flowers for 2 great plays, the interception of Jordan Love and the crucial block that sprung Rashid Shaheed for his punt return touchdown. Johnson has been really good on special teams so far this year so got to see him make a play on defense too. For the final up I went with Taylor for the reasons I highlighted above, not a perfect performance by any means but Harvey has proved to be a playmaker for this defense.


Stock Down

The whole O-line

Doug Marrone

Blake Grupe


        I’ve cheated here a little bit, but I can’t single out one player from the o-line, everyone must be accountable for this display at the end of the day their starting QB got hurt because of the frankly awful play. Again, as highlighted above it's not just the pass blocking but the run blocking too has not been remotely good enough. 


        At this stage it doesn’t feel fair to just blame the players, I highlighted above how Pete needs to help the o-line, I also think some responsibility needs to fall at Doug Marrone’s door, it is his second year coaching this o-line the run blocking was a massive issue last year and it still is this year and the pass protection issues are completing de-railing this offense and this team overall, he has the talent something has to change otherwise this team is going nowhere this year.


        Finally, Blake Grupe, this was his first true pressure kick, there was pressure on some of his other kicks but all of them were sub-30-yard attempts. Today he had a 46-yard attempt to put the Saints up by 2 with just over a minute to play. In his words the snap and hold were perfect, and he just missed it. The Saints made a big decision this off-season to go with Grupe over the vet Will Lutz, granted Lutz hasn’t been great either but this was Grupe’s first test to prove he is legit and unfortunately wasn’t successful. 



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By David Billiot Jr March 15, 2026
The big question following LSU’s heartbreaking loss on Friday night was how they would respond. Game 1 was a rollercoaster of emotions, starting with the Tigers scoring first, giving up the lead, Jake Brown crushing a homerun to retake the lead, then the pitching staff collapsing to fall behind 10-4, followed by 8 unanswered runs by LSU, only to be walked off in the 9th inning while being just an out of securing the dramatic comeback victory. Having that happen will test a team mentally under normal circumstances, but considering the timing, it was an even bigger challenge. It happened on the road, in the first game of SEC play, and on the heels of a pretty bad multi-week stretch for the Tigers. LSU was going to need a quick start on Saturday night to regain momentum, but Vanderbilt beat them to it by scoring first while Wyatt Nadeau carved up Jay Johnson’s lineup the first time through the order. The Tigers answered back to tie the game, but as Cooper Moore battled through the early innings, he was also playing with fire. He finally got burned in the 5th inning and things went downhill in a hurry for LSU. Before you knew it, they were down 10-1 and, again, in deep trouble. What was most concerning was Saturday’s results seemed to indicate that what we watched transpire on Friday had more to do with the Commodores choking, rather than the Tigers storming back on their own merit. LSU would go down quietly this time, dropping their first series of conference play. Pitching Cooper Moore entered Saturday coming off of his worst start of the season thus far. It wasn’t bad last week, but it was a far cry from his first three. He looked good early against Vanderbilt, breezing 1-2-3 through the 1st inning. Despite getting in to early trouble in the 2nd, Moore battled out of a 2nd and 3rd with 0 outs situation by only allowing 1 run. That was a massive win in the moment. The leadoff hitter got on base in the 3rd, but, again, he fought through it and didn’t allow the baserunner past 2nd base. We saw more of the same in the 4th, as the inning started with an infield hit, a single, then the chopper that bounced high over Zach Yorke’s head and rolled down the 1st baseline to give Vanderbilt a 2-1 and, once again, put runners on 2nd and 3rd with 0 outs. Moore struck out Ryker Waite, who came in to the series with a .560 on base percentage. Then, thanks to the magician that LSU has playing shortstop, a double play ended yet another big threat. Korbin Reynolds hit a laser right at Steven Milam, who was playing on the grass with the infield in. The ball go on to Milam so quickly, he had to fall backwards to catch it, but his impeccable reaction time somehow allowed him to snag the ball, fall to his butt, and toss it Trent Caraway at 3rd base. Unfortunately for Moore, the trouble would catch up to him in the 5th, though. A four pitch walk to the Commodores 9-hole hitter was the omen of bad things to come, as that was followed with a perfect sacrifice bunt attempt that no one fielded as they hoped it would roll foul, and then another single loaded the bases with 0 outs and Moore’s night was over. The first inning was the only inning that he was able to pitch from the windup, as the leadoff hitter was on base for the next four innings. Despite the talent of starting pitchers, that will forever be tough to overcome, especially against good teams. Final line: 4.0 IP / 7 hits / 5 runs / 4 Ks / 2 BBs / 79 pitches (48 strikes, 61%) Ethan Plog entered in an impossible situation and promptly got he ball he was hoping for. A high chopper ground ball made Yorke leave his feet, but he snagged it and fired home for the force out attempt. Unfortunately, the throw was poor and Omar Serna was unable to go down and get it, scoring a run and the bases remained loaded with no outs. Plog would then walk a hitter and give up a sacrifice fly, pushing Vanderbilt’s lead to 5-1. Chris Maldonado then stepped to the plate to pinch hit and blasted a 3 run homerun over Derek Curiel’s leaping attempt in dead center and the Commodores had blowing things open with 6 run 5th inning. Plog has been fantastic, but that’s where his first SEC appearance would come to an end. Final line: .1 IP / 1 hit / 3 runs / 0 K / 2 BBs Freshman Zion Theophilus was called upon to try and finish off the disaster of an inning for LSU pitching and he did just that, recording a strikeout and a flyout to end the 5th. Back for the 6th, he recorded the leadoff hitter for the first time since the 1st inning, but was unable to record another out after that. He then issued 3 walks (1 intentional) and a hit by pitch and his day was done. Final line: 1.0 IP / 0 hits / 2 runs / 1 K / 3 BBs From one high promise freshman pitcher to another, Reagan Ricken entered with the bases loaded and 1 out. He did exactly what Jay Johnon called upon him to do, drawing a ground ball to record an out and striking out Waite looking to keep the damage from getting worse. Even though a run scored on the groundout, LSU pitchers have struggled to simply record outs in some of these tough spots, which allows things to get worse and worse, much like we saw in the 5th. Ricken returned for the 7th and despite allowing a solo homerun and 2 two out walks, was able to navigate through the entire inning and get out of trouble. Ricken continues to flash plenty of traits to very excited about as he grows as a Tiger. Final line: 1.2 IP / 1 hit / 1 run / 2 Ks / 2 BBs With LSU down 11-3 and the tensity of the moment being low, Jay Johnson inserted Marcos Paz for the 8th inning in a great spot to get his feet wet. As he continues to come back from Tommy John surgery, he’s flashed his talent that made him a possible draft risk, while also battling through rust. In his first SEC appearance, he looked fantastic. Despite a walk, Paz struck out the side, including Maldonado that hit the big homerun earlier. Final line: 1.0 IP / 0 hits / 0 runs / 3 Ks / 1 BB Hitting There isn’t a lot of offensive production to get to, so this will be quick. Steven Milam followed up his 3 hit performance on Friday with a 1-4 game, including a fantastic piece of opposite field hitting for a double. Derek Curiel, Cade Arrambide, and Omar Serna each had a single hit, to give you the 4 total LSU hits. Arrambide’s was a double and Serna’s was a 2 run single that brought his RBI total for the week up to 6. Jake Brown entered the game with only 9 strikeouts so far this season, but Nadeau’s stuff was so good, he was able to get LSU’s offensive MVP twice. Brown did draw 2 walks, finishing the night 0-2. Up Next LSU and Vanderbilt will wrap up SEC opening weekend tomorrow. First pitch will be at 3 pm central. William Schmidt will take the mound for the Tigers as they look to avoid being swept on SEC opening weekend for the first time since 2006 when Arkansas took three in Alex Box during Smoke Laval’s final season. The Tigers have fallen to 13-7, which matches Vanderbilt’s record after back to back wins to start the series. The Commodores will send Nate Taylor to the mound on Sunday, who has started all four Sundays for them this season. Taylor has a record of 0-3 with a 4.91 ERA. His batting average against is the highest of any of the top Vanderbilt pitchers that LSU has seen so far at .242. Taylor has given up 12 runs in 18.1 innings of work, so the opportunities for the Tiger offense to get back on track could be there.
By David Billiot Jr March 14, 2026
Gut-wrenching. There’s no other way to put it. LSU fought all the way back from a 10-4 deficit to have the game ripped from them at the very last second. They say that the 27th out in baseball is the hardest one to get and tonight, we saw why. If you told Jay Johnson that he could be in that situation with the tying run at 3rd base with 2 outs in the 9th inning and Gavin Guidry on the mound, I can guarantee you that he’d take that scenario 10 out of 10 times. In majority of those times, it would work in the Tiger’s favor, too. Not tonight. Sometimes you have to tip the cap to the other team for making the necessary plays and that’s what happened in the final inning on Friday night. Vanderbilt earned their victory. Not without some help from the LSU pitching staff early in the game, but when it mattered most, the Commadores stepped up. Although we learned a lot about the resilience of the Tigers in game 1 with their willingness to to fight back, we will learn even more about their ability to rebound from a tough loss. There were plenty of silver linings despite the L, which could be huge for the future success of this LSU team. Pitching Casan Evans had been on a steady upwards trajectory with his transition from ace bullpen piece to Friday night ace. That trend hit a brick wall tonight. Despite having a lead before stepping on to the mound, Evans was way off from his very first pitch. He walked 3 of the first 4 hitters of the game. Though he was able to strike out two, a two out 2-run single flipped the scoreboard to give Vanderbilt a 2-1 lead. The offense retook the lead, but the struggles remained as the LSU ace gave up another run in the 2nd on walk and a couple of singles. It was more of the same in the 3rd, as Evans continued to battle control problems, allowing another 2 runs on only 1 hit. The free passes were a haunting presence for his entire outing. Surprisingly, he returned for the 4th having already thrown 82 pitches. He’d finish with 83, though, as Braden Holcomb would blast a solo homerun to right center and that would be the end of the night for Casan Evans. Final line: 3.0 IP / 5 hits / 6 runs / 5 Ks / 5 BBs / 1 HBP / 83 pitches (46 strikes, 55%) The expectations for Cooper Williams were high coming in to his sophomore season, but he has failed to come even close to them, so far. That continued tonight when he relieved Casan Evans in the 4th inning. He entered with no one out in the inning, but failed to record an out. Williams walked the bases loaded and then started the next hitter with back to back balls and Jay had seen enough. Williams desperately needs to figure it out. Final line: 0.0 IP / 0 hits / 4 runs / 0 Ks / 4 BBs Jaden Noot inherited the 2-0 count from Williams and promptly allowed the walk with a few more pitches out of the zone. He followed with back to back outs to get close to being out of the inning, but another walk, then a 2 run single, followed by yet another walk would allow Vanderbilt to extend their lead to 10-4 and that would be all for Noot. Final line: .2 IP / 1 hit / 0 runs / 1 K / 2 BB Although it’s fairly subjective, it’s safe to say that Zac Cowan has been the most disappointing pitcher on LSU’s staff thus far in 2026. Considering how dominant he was for almost all of his 2025 season, the coaching staff had high hopes that they were bringing back a pitcher that could be trusted against anyone on the schedule. With the way some of Cowan’s outings had gone through the first four weeks of the season, he was borderline unable to be trusted against anyone. That changed Friday night. He was marvelous. Looking like the rock solid bullpen piece from a year ago, Cowan mowed through the Commadores lineup, allowing just one baserunner. One single was all that he allowed, while striking out 5 and throwing 73% strikes. As much credit as the offense deserves for fighting back in this game, Cowan deserves just as much for stabilizing things for the staff and allowing the bats to go to work. Final line: 3.1 IP / 1 hit / 0 runs / 5 Ks / 0 BBs Once the Tigers took the lead in the top of the 8th, Jay Johnson turned to Gavin Guidry. The argument could be heard that Cowan may have had more in the tank as he was rolling strong, but we’ve seen Guidry come in to close the final 6 outs of a ballgame before. It’s almost never the wrong move to put the game in his hands. At first, he was proving why. He went 3 up, 3 down in the 8th while striking out two hitters looking. But as I said in the beginning, sometimes you have to tip your cap to the opponent and admit that they beat you. In the 9th, Vanderbilt recorded back to back singles to start the inning. A passed ball then allowed both runners to advance, putting the tying run at 2nd base in a 12-10 ballgame. Guidry was able to record an out, although it was a sacrifice fly that drew the Commadores within a run and top hitter Braden Holcomb coming to the plate. Guidry painted a perfectly executed slider on the outside corner to freeze Holcomb for the second out of the inning, putting LSU just an out away from the comeback win. Unfortunately, an 0-1 slider to Logan Johnstone hung up just a little and the ball took flight in to right center to give Vanderbilt a walk off victory. Guidry just got beat. Plain and simple. Final line: 1.2 IP / 3 hits / 3 runs / 3 Ks / 0 BBs Hitting Moving up in to the leadoff role, Steven Milam acted like he belonged there. He recorded hits in his first three at bats, leading to a 3-6 day with 3 runs scored. Milam has been hitting the ball hard, severely lowering his strikeout rate from 2025. His lone strikeout tonight was only his 4th of the season, showing why concerns of his performance have been largely overblown. This spot for Jake Brown might as well be written in permanent marker at this point. He finds his way on to the top offensive performer list ever single game and he is year yet again. The 3 run homerun in the 2nd seemed like the perfect opportunity for Casan Evans to settle in and roll, but as we know, the offense would be relied upon for even more. Brown’s final line was 3-5 with 3 RBI, 2 runs scored, a walk, the homerun, and also a double. His third hit came on a beautifully executed drag bunt in the 8th inning, helping get the rally together that eventually took the lead. Derek Curiel moved down to third in the order with Milam swapping to leadoff. Curiel has been LSU’s best hitter not named Jake Brown and he continued that on Friday. It doesn’t matter where he hits in the lineup, he’s going to just simply…hit. He finished 2-4, which included the 2 run double over the center fielder’s head to pull LSU within a run with a 10-9 deficit. He finished with 3 RBI, 2 runs scored, and also walked. Cade Arrambide has gone through the bumps on the road as he adjusts to being the primary starting catcher. Both offensively and defensively, LSU has needed him to be better. He was just that on Friday night. His defense was solid, blocking up multiple pitches in the dirt. His 2-4 line with 2 runs scored and a walk further boosted his bounce back game from a rough week or two. Seth Dardar didn’t get the start, but he entered as a pinch hitter in the 5th inning for Brayden Simpson and delivered what I would say was the biggest swing of the night for the Tigers. With the bases loaded and 2 outs in the 5th, Connor Fennell was very close from escaping without damage, but Dardar ripped a base-clearing double to drive in 3 runs and cut LSU’s deficit in half to 10-7. If he doesn’t come through in that moment, who knows how the rest of the night would have went for the Tigers. He finished 1-3 with that double and the 3 RBI. Zach Yorke entered the game with a 4 game hitting streak that started in game 1 against Sacramento St. That streak came to an end on Friday, but he did draw 3 walks, which led to a .600 on base percentage. Last, but certainly not least, is Chris Stanfield, who provided the much needed spark that the lineup had been missing in his absence. In that 9-hole spot in the bottom of the order, his ability to find his way on base is invaluable. He is, essentially, a second lead off hitter. His biggest value in that spot is to be a table setter for the table setters in the top of the lineup and that’s exactly what he did Friday in his first start since opening weekend. Stanfield was 2-4 with a couple of singles, while drawing a walk and scoring twice. Up Next LSU will be faced with the enormous task of bouncing back from that heart breaking loss to try and win the next two games and head back to Baton Rouge with an opening SEC weekend series win. The loss dropped the Tigers to 13-6. Cooper Moore (3-1) will take the mound on Saturday with the goal to go deeper in the game and compete to give his team the best chance to win. Vanderbilt improved to 12-7 on the season and will send Wyatt Nadeau to the mound on Saturday night. Nadeau has made 4 appearances thus far, with last Saturday being his only start. He is filling in for Austin Nye in the weekend rotation, who is injured. First pitch between LSU and Vanderbilt will be for 7 pm central on Saturday night.
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