Updated 53-Man Roster Projection Part 1

Jamie UK • August 22, 2023

Offense Projection

We’ve now seen the Saints play 2 preseason games and have two joint practices with the Los Angeles Chargers. This is have provided me some additional insight into who’s trending towards a spot on the initial 53-man roster. The Saints must cut down their roster from 90 to 53 after their final preseason game against the Texans on Sunday, so at this stage let’s dive into how I think that roster is going to look.

In part 1 I will project the offense, in part 2 I will project the defense and specialists.


Quarterback

First Projection (3)

Derek Carr

Jameis Winston

Jake Haener


Todays Projection (3)

Derek Carr

Jameis Winston

Jake Haener


There’s no change in my projection at QB. Carr looked excellent against the Chiefs and had a solid week of practice against the Chargers, I am even more confident now than I already was at the start of the off-season that Carr is going to be a great fit in this offense and a real upgrade at the most important position in sports.


Jameis Winston has played exactly as I’d expect so absolutely wow throws (I thought the throw to Shaq Davis against the Chargers was a damn dime) but, also some heads scratchers, I still think Winston gives the Saints one of the best backup QBs in the league but the floor this team is certainly lower if he had to start many games.

Finally, the HaenerHYPEtrain, it’s been a mixed bag for Haener since I did this exercise last.  He struggled for the most part against the Chiefs with some encouraging moments. He didn’t take any team reps against the Chargers in practice so not much to comment on there. However, he played much better in the game Vs the Chargers and showed some of the poise and abilities that have led him to be hyped throughout training camp. The highlight for Haener was a beautiful throw on the run to former LSU Tiger Jontre Kirklin, who hopefully continues to show improvements in the last preseason game vs the Texans.

Running Back

First Projection (4)
Alvin Kamara

Jamaal Williams

Kendre Miller

Adam Prentice (FB)


Todays Projection (4)

Alvin Kamara**

Jamaal Williams

Kendre Miller

Adam Prentice (FB)


Again, I have no change here, but you may have noticed I have Kamara with an * that’s because he will need to be carried on the initial 53 before being moved to the reserve/suspended list, which then frees up his roster spot for the Saints to use on most likely another RB. 


The question here is if the Saints choose to just carry 5 RBs straight away. Are they going to bring back an RB after Kamara’s spot opens? Or the final option they have is to add a couple of RBs to the practice squad (likely rookie UDFA Ellis Merriweather, who’s impressed me in both games and gives me Latavious Murray vibes with his upright running style and/or the vet Darrell Williams) and elevate them on gamedays (this would be my preferred option).


Williams has had a solid but fairly unassuming couple of weeks against the Chiefs and Chargers there are no concerns about him being RB1 whilst Kamara is suspended.  Miller had a better game against the Chargers than the Chiefs, highlighted by an excellent Alvin Kamara impression with a diving catch down the left sideline and some really solid pass protection (which was a concern coming out of college) on another dime from Winston, Miller will be a great change-of-pace option to Williams early in the season.

Wide receiver

First Projection (5)

Michael Thomas 

Chris Olave 

Rashid Shaheed 

Tre’Quan Smith 

A.T. Perry


Today’s Projection (6)

Michael Thomas 

Chris Olave 

Rashid Shaheed 

Tre’Quan Smith 

A.T. Perry

Keith Kirkwood


I'm going to experiment with keeping 6 WRs this time, the top 4 seem pretty set the only question is if the Saints lose patience with Smith as is has missed the last couple of weeks of camp and has struggled to stay on the field previously. Pre-injury Smith looked like the clear number 4 WR, so my guess is he’s safe. A.T. Perry has continued to rise was excellent against the Chiefs and was solid again this week in practice and in the game against the Chargers, he feels like a lock at this stage.


At WR6 I’ve added Keith Kirkwood because all signs point to him making it. I just don't know if they really make 6 WRs work. He’s had a really good camp and was WR3 in the game vs the Chiefs (Note- neither Shaheed nor Smith played) regardless that was still a big vote of confidence, the bigger vote of confidence came against the Chargers when Kirkwood was one of the players the Saints chose not to play, it would be unusual for the Saints to not play someone who’s fighting for a spot. Which would imply he’s done enough.


Honourable mentions- I wanted to highlight 2 other WRs who I don’t think will make quite make it, Kawaan Baker and Shaq Davis. Baker has been really strong on special teams (usually WR5/6’s need to be) and had a really good week in practice against the Chargers he’s the type of player with another strong week and final game who could make a push for Kirkwood’s spot. 


Finally, Shaq Davis, rookie UDFA has taken a while to warm up, he’s been quoted as saying that’s mainly because he’s been trying to get to grips with the playbook.  He looked good in limited action against the Chiefs, he has a massive catch radius and crucially looks to be really good on contested catches (something the Saints have been very vocal about wanting to add) which he showed in that game and then followed that up with a week against the Chargers. I don’t think Davis will quite do enough to make the 53 but seems like a prime practice squad candidate who could break out next offseason.


Tight End

First Projection (4)

Juwan Johnson 

Foster Moreau 

Taysom Hill

Jimmy Graham


Today’s Projection (4)

Juwan Johnson 

Foster Moreau 

Taysom Hill

Jimmy Graham


The same projection here, although I was very hesitant with Graham after his medical scare over the weekend. I’m not hesitant because I think Graham has done anything wrong (as per usual the TMZ reporting was misleading and dreadful). More so we don’t know currently how well he is. He is already a 36-year-old TE trying to make a return to the NFL after a year off, now he’s had what sounded like quite a concerning health issue, that’s why I’m hesitant to put him on the 53 at this stage without knowing more.

If Graham doesn’t make it I would have had the Saints keeping 3 TEs here. Lucas Krull hasn’t done enough to warrant a place on the 53 after some bad drops last night especially, would most likely be a practice squad candidate as he has shown some progress in his second offseason. 


Offensive Line

First Projection (9)

Trevor Penning

James Hurst

Erik McCoy

Cesar Ruiz

Ryan Ramczyk

Andrus Peat

Nick Saldiveri 

Landon Young 

Calvin Throckmorton 


Today’s Projection (9)

Trevor Penning

James Hurst

Erik McCoy

Cesar Ruiz

Ryan Ramczyk

Andrus Peat

Nick Saldiveri 

Landon Young 

Calvin Throckmorton 


I wanted to be original here and have a new name to add to this list, maybe Max Garcia or Tommy Kramer (who has graded out very well on PFF in both games) but ultimately I've stuck with the same list because I just don’t think anyone has played well enough to warrant a place over any of these players. Crucially, of the 8 penalties called on the o-line last night none of them were called on the players from this list, which I think says a lot as to how the team will also be grading this group. 


That gives me 26 offensive players, leaving 27 spots left up for grabs. Watch for part 2 where I will go through my defensive and specialist players.


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By David Rainey July 19, 2025
It’s that time of year again. The excitement of All-Star weekend and the Homerun Derby are behind us, and it’s on to the second half of the MLB season. This is the time where the great teams separate themselves from the good teams. It’s the time for teams to show whether they should be considered contenders or pretenders. And with this time of the year, of course, comes the MLB trade deadline. Arguably the most intriguing trade deadline of all the major sports. Fringe teams will have to decide whether to be buyers or sellers, and the great teams will mortgage their futures for one player they believe will take them to the promise land. Now, as out of left-field as the ending to this year’s All-Star weekend was (raise your hand if you also weren’t aware that swing offs were a thing), the MLB trade deadline features something much more curious. The Player to Be Named Later. You see, as most of us know, it’s extremely common in Major League Baseball for a team like the Padres, for example, to sell off a handful of their top prospects at the trade deadline for a lefty reliever they hope will help them navigate the difficult waters that is the postseason. But what some people aren’t aware of (outside of us baseball nerds of course) is the use of something, or someone more specifically, called the “Player to Be Named Later (PTBNL)” in these trade scenarios. For those of you who don’t know, here’s a quick explanation of what exactly the phrase “Player to Be Named Later” means. In baseball, when a team isn’t sure exactly which prospect they want in return or when they are trying to finesse the roster management rules, they will accept a “Player to Be Named Later” in return in a trade. This gives that team the opportunity to further evaluate players and choose who they want in return at a later date. This doesn’t mean that the team will just be able to choose a superstar down the road, there are limitations placed on who can be chosen, and most of the time the player ends up being just another player lost in baseball lore. However, sometimes these PTBNL turn out to be more than just a journeyman or even lead to oddities that only baseball can provide. So, what are the most famous cases of Players to Be Named Later? Well, I’m glad you asked. Let’s start with the not so unexpected scenario that actually led to the PTBNL rules to be changed. Trea Turner Before 2015, there was a rule in place in the MLB in which prevented players from being traded for a year after being drafted. Trea Turner was drafted by the San Diego Padres in the first round of the 2014 Draft which meant, you guessed it, he wasn’t eligible to be traded until the following year. However, in December of 2014 the Padres, Nationals, and Rays agreed to mega-deal that involved 11 players AND a Player to Be Named Later. So, what does this have to do with Turner? Well, everyone was aware of who that PTBNL would be. Trea Turner. But as I mentioned before, he wasn’t allowed to be traded yet. So Turner had to spend the beginning of the next season playing for the Padres who had already traded him. This led to a rule change in MLB before the next draft to avoid this situation ever playing out again. But where is Trea Turner now? He’s certainly no journeyman. He had an incredible start to his career with the Nationals, before being traded (again) to the Dodgers with Max Scherzer in 2021. He eventually signed a $300 million deal with the Phillies where he still plays and remains one of the best players in Major League Baseball. But is he the best PTBNL of all time? Not quite. David Ortiz Big Papi. Ever heard of him? Sure you have. But did you know he wasn’t always the mashing lefty for the Red Sox that we know and love? That’s right. Early on in David Ortiz’s career he actually struggled to find a place in the league; and at one point, was even a Player to Be Named Later in a trade. He actually started his career with the Seattle Mariners, but he doesn’t mean much to the Mariners franchise outside of being a PTBNL in a trade in 1996 with the Minnesota Twins for Dave Hollins. As a matter of fact, not only was Ortiz not the player we know on the field, he wasn’t even David Ortiz on paper. At the time, he was actually known as David Arias. You might be thinking, “Wow. The Mariners really traded BIG PAPI.” Trust me when I tell that the Twins feel even worse. Ortiz would play a handful of seasons for the Twins from 1997-2002; however, even after a solid season in 2002 with the Twins, they would go on to RELEASE Ortiz. That’s right. Even one of the greatest players to ever step foot on a baseball diamond was not only traded as PTBNL but was also outright released. Of course in 2003, David Ortiz would go on to join the Boston Red Sox. Ten All-Star games, 3 World Series Championships, a World Series MVP, and a Hall of Fame selection later, David Ortiz would go down in baseball history as one of the most feared batters of all time, and the legend we know him as today Big Papi. What is the oddest Player to Be Named Later situation? There is a rare, but always delightfully bizarre situation in which a player is traded for himself as a Player to Be Named Later. This hilariously absurd scenario is so rare that it has only happened four times in the history of Major League Baseball. Harry Chiti – traded from the then Cleveland Indians to the Mets in 1962 for a PTBNL. However, he was so bad that the Mets decided trade him back to Cleveland as the PTBNL Brad Gulden – traded (with $100,000) from the Yankees to the Mariners for Larry Milbourne and a PTBNL in 1980. Once again, he performed so poorly that the Mariners traded him back to New York as the PTBNL in the original trade. Are you sensing a theme? Dickie Noles – In 1987 the Cubs traded him to the Tigers for a Player to Be Named Later. Sadly, he didn’t do enough during the Tigers playoff run that year for them to want to keep him around. So, they shipped back to the Windy City to complete the trade as the PTBNL. John McDonald – The most recent example. He was acquired by Detroit, who clearly didn’t learn anything in 1987, from the Blue Jays in 2005 for, that’s right, a PTBNL. Later that year, he was sent back to Canada for cash considerations. There you go. Next time you’re hanging out with your buddies on the back porch naming random athletes from your pass, feel free to drop in a “Dickie Noles” reference and explain the wonderful scenario of him being traded for himself. Baseball is such a beautiful sport in so many ways. For many of us, it’s the first sport we play as children, or the sport we remember watching with our grandparents on the living room floor. It has such an iconic and rich history. It’s known as “America’s past time” for a reason. But throughout that history, there are so many things that have happened that can only be described as strange and uniquely baseball. And that’s why we love it. So, when you’re scrolling social media or watching ESPN this trade deadline season and see that stud middle reliever traded for nothing but a Player to Be Named Later, maybe you won’t just brush it off this time around. Maybe you’ll wait to see who that player becomes, and maybe they’ll end up being another great piece of baseball trivia.
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