The Recap - Saints Vs Bucs Week 17

Jamie UK • January 2, 2024

The Recap- Saints Vs Bucs


        The Saints played probably their best game of the season on Sunday, a case of too little to late? Maybe but at this stage with Dennis Allen’s job almost certainly safe its important to see improvements on what we’ve seen from this team for most of the season.



Team Stats


(Saints/Bucs)


Final Score: 23-13

First downs: 20-13

3rd down efficiency: 8/18- 2/8

Total yards: 310-349

Red Zone Efficiency:1 of 3 - 0 of 0

Penalties:  5 for 31 yards- 5 for 38 yards

Turnovers- 0-4

Time of possession- 36:38 - 23:22


Takeaways


Offense


        Derek Carr continued his late season improvements Carr has now posted a 105.5 passer rating on better in 4 of his last 5 games, he’s only managed to 3 such games in the 11 games prior. Again, Carr wasn’t anything otherworldly, but he was efficient, was very good on third down and crucially handled pressure better than he probably has all season.


        Carr was only under pressure on 7 dropbacks but unlike throughout the season he managed those dropbacks well, he completed 4 passes on 6 attempts (66.7%) for 47 yards and a Touchdown. On the season Carr has only completed 48% of his passes under pressure. So, a significant improvement in this game, but like most things with Carr and this offense we need to see this on a consistent basis for this offense to be what it needs to be.


        Finally, we saw Carr connect with his TEs in the way we expected before the season. TE’s accounted for 8 of Carr’s 25 completions and 122 of Carr’s 197 passing yards. They also caught both Touchdown passes that Carr threw. The TE group has been one of the biggest disappointments for the offense all year. Taysom Hill has been okay; Foster Moreau has been mainly a blocker after showing good promise as a receiver with Carr in Las Vegas. 


        Juwan Johnson has been the biggest disappointment of the group, I thought he was ascending into a Pro-Bowl caliber player this year I’ve been wrong but performances like Sunday (8 catches for 90 yards and a TD) is the types play of play I expected to see much more often. Again, as with everything on offense we need to see it consistently for it to mean much but it’s encouraging to see.


        The o-line has shown really solid improvement in pass protection throughout the season especially since Andrus Peat has taken over at LT. They only gave up 6 pressures against the Bucs per PFF, considering the Bucs blitzed on 51.5% of drop backs this is impressive, when earlier in the season if a team blitzed it almost guaranteed pressure.


        Despite the improvements we’ve seen in pass protection we have not seen the same in run blocking. The run game again, outside of Alvin Kamara again struggled against a good Bucs front 7. Kamara was running well before leaving the game with an Ankle sprain, DA would not specify on the severity of the injury when he spoke to the media today. Outside of Kamara Saints RBs and Taysom averaged 3 YPC on 22 carries. This is right up there for me as one the biggest issues that has to be fixed on offense this off-season. A new O-line coach could be something that the Saints need to consider. 


Defense


        This was an important comeback game for the Saints defense, Baker Mayfield and this Bucs offense torched them in the first meeting. That wasn’t the case on Sunday, yes if you look at the stats you may think that it wasn’t a particularly strong outing but there’s some important context.


        With 10:30 left in the 4th quarter the Saints were up 20-0, at this stage the Bucs had 150 yards of total offense. The Saints took their foot of the gas and the Bucs next three drives accounted for 199 yards and 2 TDs. Now, the Saints still gave these plays up but it’s reasonable to think that the plan that was in place earlier in the game wasn’t quite what was called at this point in the game.


        The Saints sacked Mayfield twice and forced 4 turnovers (well, forced 3 and were gifted 1) Johnathan Abram accounted for 2 of those turnovers with an interception on a tipped pass by Tanoh Kpassgnon and forced a fumble on a textbook strip on Bucs RB Rachaad White. Whilst Alontae Taylor snagged his first career INT when he high pointed an underthrown pass from Mayfield. 


        The final turnover was a play very reminiscent of a play involving Chris Olave against the Bucs last season. A completed deep ball, where the receiver in this case was Trey Palmer who caught it, went down untouched and fumbled, Isaac Yiadom recovered, this was actually a pretty crucial mistake as this would have set the Bucs up down with 1st and 10 from the Saints 21 with 03:48 to go, yes still down 16 so a comeback would have been unlikely but this allowed the Saints to get the ball back and drain a further 01:44 of the clock, almost assuring the victory.



Saints Stock Exchange (Sponsored By… Nobody)


        Just a quick hit section each week to highlight which Saints players/staff have their stock value increasing and decreasing after each game, 3 up and 3 down:


Stock Up

  • Johnathan Abram
  • Alontae Taylor
  • Juwan Johnson


        Abrams for most of the season has been a reserve/practice squad player, he was given the start at Safety for 2 reasons, rookie Jordan Howden missed practice in the build up due to illness and Abrams has put in the work behind the scenes all season to have earned the opportunity, DA commented that Abrams has logged the most time on the team issued iPads watching film. Taylor bounced back well after being benched against the Rams last week and earned his first career INT, that warrants a place on this list 9 times out of 10.


        Final place on the ‘Ups’ this week goes to Juwan Johnson; he was dominant in this game accounting for 90 of the teams 208 passing yards. Hope to see another strong game to close out the season.



Stock Down

  • Cam Jordan
  • Paulson Adebo


        Cam Jordan won’t find his name here often, clearly, he’s still hampered by the ankle injury as despite his sack numbers being very low, he was pressuring the QB still at a close to elite level. That’s not really been happening since the injury. On Sunday Cam didn’t register a single QB pressure or any defensive stops in the run game per PFF (Defensive Stops - tackles that constitute a "failure" for the offense).


        My final down for this game is Adebo a player who has featured heavily in the ‘Ups’ list throughout the year. He struggled a bit in this game, per PFF he gave up 3 catches for 115 yards and a touchdown on 8 targets. The 2 catches for 68 yards he gave up to Mike Evans, Adebo was not close in coverage. He was credited by PFF as giving up the 47-yard TD to Chris Godwin from watching the play back I am not sure how so that might not be fair.


Conclusion


        The Saints showed up when they had to this was lose and go home and they produced their most complete game of the season, against a team that isn’t a bottom dweller. That deserves credit. The lion's share of that credit should go to the veteran leadership on this team for keeping everyone together rather than the coaching staff.


        With DA almost assured to keep his job, all I’m looking for in the season finale is to see some more positive play to lead us into the off-season and most importantly to end the seasons with a win to avoid being swept by the Falcons. 


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By David Rainey July 19, 2025
It’s that time of year again. The excitement of All-Star weekend and the Homerun Derby are behind us, and it’s on to the second half of the MLB season. This is the time where the great teams separate themselves from the good teams. It’s the time for teams to show whether they should be considered contenders or pretenders. And with this time of the year, of course, comes the MLB trade deadline. Arguably the most intriguing trade deadline of all the major sports. Fringe teams will have to decide whether to be buyers or sellers, and the great teams will mortgage their futures for one player they believe will take them to the promise land. Now, as out of left-field as the ending to this year’s All-Star weekend was (raise your hand if you also weren’t aware that swing offs were a thing), the MLB trade deadline features something much more curious. The Player to Be Named Later. You see, as most of us know, it’s extremely common in Major League Baseball for a team like the Padres, for example, to sell off a handful of their top prospects at the trade deadline for a lefty reliever they hope will help them navigate the difficult waters that is the postseason. But what some people aren’t aware of (outside of us baseball nerds of course) is the use of something, or someone more specifically, called the “Player to Be Named Later (PTBNL)” in these trade scenarios. For those of you who don’t know, here’s a quick explanation of what exactly the phrase “Player to Be Named Later” means. In baseball, when a team isn’t sure exactly which prospect they want in return or when they are trying to finesse the roster management rules, they will accept a “Player to Be Named Later” in return in a trade. This gives that team the opportunity to further evaluate players and choose who they want in return at a later date. This doesn’t mean that the team will just be able to choose a superstar down the road, there are limitations placed on who can be chosen, and most of the time the player ends up being just another player lost in baseball lore. However, sometimes these PTBNL turn out to be more than just a journeyman or even lead to oddities that only baseball can provide. So, what are the most famous cases of Players to Be Named Later? Well, I’m glad you asked. Let’s start with the not so unexpected scenario that actually led to the PTBNL rules to be changed. Trea Turner Before 2015, there was a rule in place in the MLB in which prevented players from being traded for a year after being drafted. Trea Turner was drafted by the San Diego Padres in the first round of the 2014 Draft which meant, you guessed it, he wasn’t eligible to be traded until the following year. However, in December of 2014 the Padres, Nationals, and Rays agreed to mega-deal that involved 11 players AND a Player to Be Named Later. So, what does this have to do with Turner? Well, everyone was aware of who that PTBNL would be. Trea Turner. But as I mentioned before, he wasn’t allowed to be traded yet. So Turner had to spend the beginning of the next season playing for the Padres who had already traded him. This led to a rule change in MLB before the next draft to avoid this situation ever playing out again. But where is Trea Turner now? He’s certainly no journeyman. He had an incredible start to his career with the Nationals, before being traded (again) to the Dodgers with Max Scherzer in 2021. He eventually signed a $300 million deal with the Phillies where he still plays and remains one of the best players in Major League Baseball. But is he the best PTBNL of all time? Not quite. David Ortiz Big Papi. Ever heard of him? Sure you have. But did you know he wasn’t always the mashing lefty for the Red Sox that we know and love? That’s right. Early on in David Ortiz’s career he actually struggled to find a place in the league; and at one point, was even a Player to Be Named Later in a trade. He actually started his career with the Seattle Mariners, but he doesn’t mean much to the Mariners franchise outside of being a PTBNL in a trade in 1996 with the Minnesota Twins for Dave Hollins. As a matter of fact, not only was Ortiz not the player we know on the field, he wasn’t even David Ortiz on paper. At the time, he was actually known as David Arias. You might be thinking, “Wow. The Mariners really traded BIG PAPI.” Trust me when I tell that the Twins feel even worse. Ortiz would play a handful of seasons for the Twins from 1997-2002; however, even after a solid season in 2002 with the Twins, they would go on to RELEASE Ortiz. That’s right. Even one of the greatest players to ever step foot on a baseball diamond was not only traded as PTBNL but was also outright released. Of course in 2003, David Ortiz would go on to join the Boston Red Sox. Ten All-Star games, 3 World Series Championships, a World Series MVP, and a Hall of Fame selection later, David Ortiz would go down in baseball history as one of the most feared batters of all time, and the legend we know him as today Big Papi. What is the oddest Player to Be Named Later situation? There is a rare, but always delightfully bizarre situation in which a player is traded for himself as a Player to Be Named Later. This hilariously absurd scenario is so rare that it has only happened four times in the history of Major League Baseball. Harry Chiti – traded from the then Cleveland Indians to the Mets in 1962 for a PTBNL. However, he was so bad that the Mets decided trade him back to Cleveland as the PTBNL Brad Gulden – traded (with $100,000) from the Yankees to the Mariners for Larry Milbourne and a PTBNL in 1980. Once again, he performed so poorly that the Mariners traded him back to New York as the PTBNL in the original trade. Are you sensing a theme? Dickie Noles – In 1987 the Cubs traded him to the Tigers for a Player to Be Named Later. Sadly, he didn’t do enough during the Tigers playoff run that year for them to want to keep him around. So, they shipped back to the Windy City to complete the trade as the PTBNL. John McDonald – The most recent example. He was acquired by Detroit, who clearly didn’t learn anything in 1987, from the Blue Jays in 2005 for, that’s right, a PTBNL. Later that year, he was sent back to Canada for cash considerations. There you go. Next time you’re hanging out with your buddies on the back porch naming random athletes from your pass, feel free to drop in a “Dickie Noles” reference and explain the wonderful scenario of him being traded for himself. Baseball is such a beautiful sport in so many ways. For many of us, it’s the first sport we play as children, or the sport we remember watching with our grandparents on the living room floor. It has such an iconic and rich history. It’s known as “America’s past time” for a reason. But throughout that history, there are so many things that have happened that can only be described as strange and uniquely baseball. And that’s why we love it. So, when you’re scrolling social media or watching ESPN this trade deadline season and see that stud middle reliever traded for nothing but a Player to Be Named Later, maybe you won’t just brush it off this time around. Maybe you’ll wait to see who that player becomes, and maybe they’ll end up being another great piece of baseball trivia.
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