The Recap- Saints Vs Bears

Jamie UK • November 6, 2023

The Recap- Saints Vs Bears


What a ridiculous game, the Saints were outgained on offense, had 2 fewer first downs than the Bears and yet somehow (mainly due to turning the Bears over 5 times) came away with a 24-17 win, a game that equally feels like it could have been a loss or a much more convincing win.


Let's break down how the madness went down.


Team Stats 


(Saints/Bears)


Final Score: 24-17

First downs: 18-20

3rd down efficiency: 7/14- 6/12

Total yards: 301-368

RedZone Efficiency:3 of 5- 2 of 4

Penalties: 1 for 5 yards- 8 for 71 yards

Turnovers- 0- 5

Time of possession- 29:20-30:40


Takeaways 


Offense


A strange game for the offense, only 1 penalty, Carr was not sacked and barely even touched, Carr was good in the redzone ( 2 TD passes inside the 10) and on third down and yet there was still a lot of meat left on the bone and its hard to see why. 


The main two things that I can put it down to is the run blocking outside of Taysom Hill's plays is still really bad outside of Hill's rushes the RBs averaged 2.4 YPC on 13 carries. That's not how this offense wants to operate and is a big reason for the lack of sustained drives. 


The second reason? The severe lack of Mike Thomas, Thomas is a drive starter/ sustainer he was targeted only twice with 0 receptions (he did draw a defensive hold on his first target but that first target didn't come until the 9:46 in the 4th quarter you have to imagine the Bears game-planned heavily to keep Thomas out of the game today. 


Dennis Allen also did his offense no favours today with some questionable calls, first, he decided to punt on the Bear's 39 on 4th and 5, the game was tied at 17 with 01:12 left in the 3rd this felt gutless at the time and I still think that's the case now even with hindsight. His second questionable call came with 07:52 left in the 4th, he decided to go for it with a 4th and 1 QB sneak (I thought Olave had the first down on the play before honestly)  which was unsuccessful instead of going for a field goal on the Bears 17 which would (if successful) have made it a 10 point game. 


Speaking of field goal attempts Grupe missed an opportunity to put more points on the board when he missed a 47-yard kick to again make it a 10-point game with 02:30 left in the game. Grupe has the makings to be a really good NFL kicker he nailed a 55-yarder earlier in the game and is 3-5 on the season from 50+ but the misses between 40-50 cant keep happening if he's going to continue to be the kicker for this team.


Final offensive thoughts:


  • Much better pass protection from the o-line granted the Bear pass rush is not good but still encouraging to see.


  • Taysom Hill continues to be one of the most consistently great offensive players in the NFL and the Nerds are awfully quiet after how good he's been this year.


  • Loved to see the Saints break some tendencies by having Saunders run a route out of the ‘Bink Easy’ package, great read by Taysom too when he realised that Saunders was double covered and found Juwan Johnson wide open in the back of the endzone (also great pass pro by Jamaal Williams to give Hill the time to make throw)


  • Shoutout to Olave for finding the endzone, thought he was better overall but still had a bad drop on third down. 



Defense


Let's start with the good, they held the Bears to only 17 points (Zero in the second half) and forced 5 turnovers, yes, you read that 5! With 3 interceptions and 2 forced fumbles. Paulson Adebo accounted for 3 of them with 2 steller interceptions and a textbook punch-out forced fumbler, Adebo has been not just the Saints CB the last 2 weeks but he’s been their best defensive player and I have to eat some serious crow on my off-season disgust about him starting over Alontae Taylor. 

 

Now for the bad, another slow start, Bagent had far too much time for three quarters which is a worrying trend we’ve seen now for the last few weeks. They did come to life in the 4th quarter but we need to see this much more throughout the game, especially against a very poor Bears o-line.


Bagent carved the Saints up at will in the first half and again we saw a QB not known for this athleticism scramble all over the defense at will especially on third down, the thought of this defense against the very mobile Josh Dobbs next week is already giving me nightmares. 


The run defense was again spotty, there weren’t the explosive runs we saw a week ago against the Colts (barring a 22-yarder) but it felt like the Bears could get 4.5.6 yards at will when they wanted it, they again stiffened in the second half but this can't keep happening early in games because at some point it's going to cost them too much where a second-half improvement cant save them.


Overall the defense did enough again but relying on 5 turnovers isn't a consistent formula for success going forward, we need to see the front 7 produce far more regularly if this defense is going to be a top 8 unit like we think they should be.




Saints Stock Exchange (Sponsored By… Nobody)


Just a quick hit section each week to highlight which Saints players/staff have their stock value increasing and decreasing after each game, 3 up and 3 down:


Stock Up


  • Paulson Adebo
  • Taysom Hill
  • Demario Davis


When you finish with a stat line of 7 tackles, 2 interceptions, 7 tackles, a FF and a FR there's no way you can't be in the ‘up’ part of this article, frankly it was blasphemy that I didn't put Adebo in here last week, I'm right that wrong this week,


A place in this section should almost be reserved for Hill, he was the Saints running game this week and continues to be one of the most constantly effective offensive players in the NFL. He ended with 1 pass (a 3-yard TD), 11 carries for 52 yards and  4 receptions for 13 yards and 1 touchdown. This stretches the Saints record to 18-1 when Hill has more than 7 carries ( shoutout to Mike Triplett) and he’s the first player to have 10+ rushing, receiving and passing touchdowns in his career since Frank Gifford whose last season in the NFL was in 1964. If Hill isn't a Saints Hall of Famer when it's all said and done we riot.


My final place in the ‘ups’ was tricky, I went with Demario, he ended with 10 tackles (8 solo) a TFL and a game-clinching strip-sack, what he is still doing on a consistent basis at the age of 34 is wild.


Stock Down


  • Marcus Maye
  • Blake Grupe
  • Dennis Allen


It feels harsh to have Maye in here after an absolutely fantastic INT but up to that point Maye had really struggled, he struggled to tackle in the open field and had a very strange play on 4th down early in the game where he was in a perfect position to stop him in the open field when he bit hard on a pump fake to allow the QB to convert. 


Grupe had appeared here far too often, It is simple he can't keep missing these important kicks especially when they are under 50 yards the rookie kicker is very much under the microscope.


The final spot here goes to Dennis Allen, earlier in the week he told the media the defenses slow starts were on him, therefore I'm putting the defenses early struggles today on him, he’s one of the league's best defensive minds, so he needs to prove it to get this fixed it already cost them against the Jags and it easily could have cost them the last 2 weeks. I am also throwing him in here for his questionable decisions that I mentioned earlier.

 

Conclusion 


2 straight wins for the Saints which I must admit feels good but it was far from perfect against a frankly a poor Bears team. I’ve accepted this team is probably going to be far from perfect from here on out, I just want to see some fun football which I definitely saw today.


The offense is slowly turning it around, if the defense can limit these slow starts they will win plenty of games before the year is up but beyond that who knows what this team will be. All I know is if they can get into the bye week 6-4 that will be huge for this team's chances to host a playoff game in January and I'll be here to break it all done, WHODAT.


Make sure to follow me on Twitter and Instagram @SaintsReportUK, for much more Saints content and discussion throughout the 2023 season and beyond. 


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By David Rainey July 19, 2025
It’s that time of year again. The excitement of All-Star weekend and the Homerun Derby are behind us, and it’s on to the second half of the MLB season. This is the time where the great teams separate themselves from the good teams. It’s the time for teams to show whether they should be considered contenders or pretenders. And with this time of the year, of course, comes the MLB trade deadline. Arguably the most intriguing trade deadline of all the major sports. Fringe teams will have to decide whether to be buyers or sellers, and the great teams will mortgage their futures for one player they believe will take them to the promise land. Now, as out of left-field as the ending to this year’s All-Star weekend was (raise your hand if you also weren’t aware that swing offs were a thing), the MLB trade deadline features something much more curious. The Player to Be Named Later. You see, as most of us know, it’s extremely common in Major League Baseball for a team like the Padres, for example, to sell off a handful of their top prospects at the trade deadline for a lefty reliever they hope will help them navigate the difficult waters that is the postseason. But what some people aren’t aware of (outside of us baseball nerds of course) is the use of something, or someone more specifically, called the “Player to Be Named Later (PTBNL)” in these trade scenarios. For those of you who don’t know, here’s a quick explanation of what exactly the phrase “Player to Be Named Later” means. In baseball, when a team isn’t sure exactly which prospect they want in return or when they are trying to finesse the roster management rules, they will accept a “Player to Be Named Later” in return in a trade. This gives that team the opportunity to further evaluate players and choose who they want in return at a later date. This doesn’t mean that the team will just be able to choose a superstar down the road, there are limitations placed on who can be chosen, and most of the time the player ends up being just another player lost in baseball lore. However, sometimes these PTBNL turn out to be more than just a journeyman or even lead to oddities that only baseball can provide. So, what are the most famous cases of Players to Be Named Later? Well, I’m glad you asked. Let’s start with the not so unexpected scenario that actually led to the PTBNL rules to be changed. Trea Turner Before 2015, there was a rule in place in the MLB in which prevented players from being traded for a year after being drafted. Trea Turner was drafted by the San Diego Padres in the first round of the 2014 Draft which meant, you guessed it, he wasn’t eligible to be traded until the following year. However, in December of 2014 the Padres, Nationals, and Rays agreed to mega-deal that involved 11 players AND a Player to Be Named Later. So, what does this have to do with Turner? Well, everyone was aware of who that PTBNL would be. Trea Turner. But as I mentioned before, he wasn’t allowed to be traded yet. So Turner had to spend the beginning of the next season playing for the Padres who had already traded him. This led to a rule change in MLB before the next draft to avoid this situation ever playing out again. But where is Trea Turner now? He’s certainly no journeyman. He had an incredible start to his career with the Nationals, before being traded (again) to the Dodgers with Max Scherzer in 2021. He eventually signed a $300 million deal with the Phillies where he still plays and remains one of the best players in Major League Baseball. But is he the best PTBNL of all time? Not quite. David Ortiz Big Papi. Ever heard of him? Sure you have. But did you know he wasn’t always the mashing lefty for the Red Sox that we know and love? That’s right. Early on in David Ortiz’s career he actually struggled to find a place in the league; and at one point, was even a Player to Be Named Later in a trade. He actually started his career with the Seattle Mariners, but he doesn’t mean much to the Mariners franchise outside of being a PTBNL in a trade in 1996 with the Minnesota Twins for Dave Hollins. As a matter of fact, not only was Ortiz not the player we know on the field, he wasn’t even David Ortiz on paper. At the time, he was actually known as David Arias. You might be thinking, “Wow. The Mariners really traded BIG PAPI.” Trust me when I tell that the Twins feel even worse. Ortiz would play a handful of seasons for the Twins from 1997-2002; however, even after a solid season in 2002 with the Twins, they would go on to RELEASE Ortiz. That’s right. Even one of the greatest players to ever step foot on a baseball diamond was not only traded as PTBNL but was also outright released. Of course in 2003, David Ortiz would go on to join the Boston Red Sox. Ten All-Star games, 3 World Series Championships, a World Series MVP, and a Hall of Fame selection later, David Ortiz would go down in baseball history as one of the most feared batters of all time, and the legend we know him as today Big Papi. What is the oddest Player to Be Named Later situation? There is a rare, but always delightfully bizarre situation in which a player is traded for himself as a Player to Be Named Later. This hilariously absurd scenario is so rare that it has only happened four times in the history of Major League Baseball. Harry Chiti – traded from the then Cleveland Indians to the Mets in 1962 for a PTBNL. However, he was so bad that the Mets decided trade him back to Cleveland as the PTBNL Brad Gulden – traded (with $100,000) from the Yankees to the Mariners for Larry Milbourne and a PTBNL in 1980. Once again, he performed so poorly that the Mariners traded him back to New York as the PTBNL in the original trade. Are you sensing a theme? Dickie Noles – In 1987 the Cubs traded him to the Tigers for a Player to Be Named Later. Sadly, he didn’t do enough during the Tigers playoff run that year for them to want to keep him around. So, they shipped back to the Windy City to complete the trade as the PTBNL. John McDonald – The most recent example. He was acquired by Detroit, who clearly didn’t learn anything in 1987, from the Blue Jays in 2005 for, that’s right, a PTBNL. Later that year, he was sent back to Canada for cash considerations. There you go. Next time you’re hanging out with your buddies on the back porch naming random athletes from your pass, feel free to drop in a “Dickie Noles” reference and explain the wonderful scenario of him being traded for himself. Baseball is such a beautiful sport in so many ways. For many of us, it’s the first sport we play as children, or the sport we remember watching with our grandparents on the living room floor. It has such an iconic and rich history. It’s known as “America’s past time” for a reason. But throughout that history, there are so many things that have happened that can only be described as strange and uniquely baseball. And that’s why we love it. So, when you’re scrolling social media or watching ESPN this trade deadline season and see that stud middle reliever traded for nothing but a Player to Be Named Later, maybe you won’t just brush it off this time around. Maybe you’ll wait to see who that player becomes, and maybe they’ll end up being another great piece of baseball trivia.
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