Saints 2023 Week 2 Recap

Jamie UK • September 19, 2023

Team Stats 

(Saints/Panthers)

Final Score: 20-17

First downs: 23-14

3rd down efficiency: 7/16 - 4/14

Total yards: 341 - 239

Red Zone Efficiency: 2/4 - 1/3

Penalties: 3 for 32 yards - 6 for 35 yards 

Turnovers: 1- 1

Time of possession: 32:49- 27:11


Not perfect but a tough, gritty and frankly ugly win again for the Saints in yet another offensive struggle and defensive masterclass. Even a first down felt like a win for both of the respective offenses. This game had very similar DNA to last week’s win against the Titans, an ugly Carr interception, inept offense in the fast half, elite play from the Saints defense throughout, with the offense finally showing signs of life in the second half and making just enough plays to win.  Let’s dive into the main takeaways.


Takeaways


Offense

        I could almost copy and paste my thoughts on the offense from last week here, this game felt very similar in many ways. Protection issues still loom large however, this week it wasn’t just the left side of the line that was guilty of drive killing plays. Ryan Ramczyk and Cesar Ruiz had two brutal beats; Ramczyk lost quickly to a speed rush early in the game.  Ruiz got blown up by LB Frankie Luvu, badly to remind you Luvu isn’t a pass rusher he’s an off-ball LB and he drove Ruiz back in very unflattering fashion. Penning overall had his issues but was better this week, especially in the run game, which surprised me last week how poor he was in that area.


        Carr struggled mightily in the first half again, he looked even worse than last week. He had yet another head scratching interception where he threw to Chris Olave in triple coverage, the pass was intercepted by former Saints safety Vonn Bell. Red zone woes continued with some of the blame falling at Carr’s door and some again on pass protection. The Saints were 0-2 in the red zone in the first half having to settle for 2 field goals inside the Panthers 10-yard line.


        Fortunately, Carr improved in the second half, finding Chris Olave and Rashid Shaheed for game changing 40+ yard passes. Olave’s catch being an early contender for catch of the year, his right arm was being held (no flag, shock!) then he tipped the ball to himself with his free arm and completed an incredible catch (see below). 

        Crucially Carr and the offense managed to convert both of these big plays into touchdowns in the red zone, both short runs by Tony Jones Jr (his first NFL touchdowns). Jones Jr. filled in amicably as the Saints only active RB* when Jamaal Williams left with a hamstring injury.


        The * above is to highlight; Yes Jones Jr. was technically the only active RB but he didn’t have to carry the load alone. Taysom ‘Mr. Perfect’, ‘the Closer’ Hill was excellent (as he usually is when used correctly) Pete Carmichael got Taysom’s usage pretty spot on apart from taking him of the field on a 3rd and 2 late in the game with Saints around midfield, Carr was sacked on the play. We can only hope that this usage of Taysom continue, there’s no to stop until somebody proves they can stop it consistently.


        Final point of the offense, Mike Thomas single handily kept the offense alive in the first half, catching 7 passes from 9 targets for 55 yards. All the catches were tough, physical contested catches, truly vintage Mike Thomas plays. Highlighted by a 19- yard catch down the right sideline where Thomas secured the catch right on the boundary. One thing is clear for the offense, they’ve done enough in these first two games but the slow starts cannot continue as they killed the Saints last year and will start to this year if not corrected.


Defense

        The defense was excellent again and until the Saints decided to run a soft, prevent style defense late in the game looked all but certain to finish their second straight game without allowing a touchdown.


        They were not helped by the offense or special teams, with both at times leaving the defense with a short field to defend. They responded by holding the Panthers to field goals and forcing a crucial turnover when Carl Granderson hustled to force the ball free from the scrambling Bryce Young with the Panthers threatening inside the Saints 20.

The defensive line was great again against both run and pass, Cam Jordan looked ageless I counted at least 4 pressures, and he should have had a strip sack of his own, but it was called back due to silly defensive hold by Paulson Adebo. All 4 of the defensive interior looked even more dominant this week than last, with the standouts being Bryan Bresee and Nathan Shepherd. Bresee took a soul on the rush where Cam followed up had the forced fumble. 


        The secondary was really good again specifically Marshon Lattimore, he stated after the game that he was not responsible for giving up a single catch and came away with another PBU to add to his tally. Alontae Taylor looks to be taking positive strides in the slot, he’s particularly showed improvement in his open field tackling and is becoming a real force player near in the line of scrimmage for this defense. To add, he nearly had an interception and would of snagged it if not for some all-pro pass defense from Panthers WR Adam Thielen.


Saints Stock Exchange (Sponsored By… Nobody)
        Just a quick hit section each week to highlight which Saints players have their stock value increasing and decreasing after each game, 3 up and 3 down:


Stock up

Taysom Hill 

Cam Jordan

Chris Olave


        Hill needs no explanation the Panthers couldn’t stop him. Jordan looked brilliant against run and pass and gave RT Taylor Moton (who’s a highly paid tackle) the business, especially with power. Final up for me, is Chris Olave his spectacular catch changed the game for the Saints and looks like a superstar in the making, Pete just needs to make sure he’s involved much earlier going forward.


Stock Down

Cesar Ruiz

Paulson Adebo

Lou Hedley


        It may be harsh to have Ruiz here, but after receiving a new deal you can’t get blown up by an off-ball LB who you have about an 80 pound weight advantage over. Adebo was guilty of 2 of the Saints 3 penalties, the DPI late in the game was soft but the defensive hold that wiped out the Bresee and Jordan strip sack was not soft it was a clear hold and wiped of a huge play that could have changed the game. The Saints would have had 1st and 10 at the Panthers 14, instead the Saints offense ended up starting on their own 3 after a punt (an 83-yard swing in field position) these kinds of penalties have plagued Adebo so far and can’t continue to happen at crucial moments.


        After being an honorable mention in the up section last week, Hedley had a rough week. He gifted the Panthers a short field after a poor 29-yard punt, which the Panthers ended up turning into 3 points. He also punted a 49 yarder into the end zone for a touchback giving the Panthers much better field position than they should have had, which they again turned into 3 points. There was always going to be growing pains for the former Aussie rules player but in games like this you cannot have your punter costing you points.


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By David Rainey July 19, 2025
It’s that time of year again. The excitement of All-Star weekend and the Homerun Derby are behind us, and it’s on to the second half of the MLB season. This is the time where the great teams separate themselves from the good teams. It’s the time for teams to show whether they should be considered contenders or pretenders. And with this time of the year, of course, comes the MLB trade deadline. Arguably the most intriguing trade deadline of all the major sports. Fringe teams will have to decide whether to be buyers or sellers, and the great teams will mortgage their futures for one player they believe will take them to the promise land. Now, as out of left-field as the ending to this year’s All-Star weekend was (raise your hand if you also weren’t aware that swing offs were a thing), the MLB trade deadline features something much more curious. The Player to Be Named Later. You see, as most of us know, it’s extremely common in Major League Baseball for a team like the Padres, for example, to sell off a handful of their top prospects at the trade deadline for a lefty reliever they hope will help them navigate the difficult waters that is the postseason. But what some people aren’t aware of (outside of us baseball nerds of course) is the use of something, or someone more specifically, called the “Player to Be Named Later (PTBNL)” in these trade scenarios. For those of you who don’t know, here’s a quick explanation of what exactly the phrase “Player to Be Named Later” means. In baseball, when a team isn’t sure exactly which prospect they want in return or when they are trying to finesse the roster management rules, they will accept a “Player to Be Named Later” in return in a trade. This gives that team the opportunity to further evaluate players and choose who they want in return at a later date. This doesn’t mean that the team will just be able to choose a superstar down the road, there are limitations placed on who can be chosen, and most of the time the player ends up being just another player lost in baseball lore. However, sometimes these PTBNL turn out to be more than just a journeyman or even lead to oddities that only baseball can provide. So, what are the most famous cases of Players to Be Named Later? Well, I’m glad you asked. Let’s start with the not so unexpected scenario that actually led to the PTBNL rules to be changed. Trea Turner Before 2015, there was a rule in place in the MLB in which prevented players from being traded for a year after being drafted. Trea Turner was drafted by the San Diego Padres in the first round of the 2014 Draft which meant, you guessed it, he wasn’t eligible to be traded until the following year. However, in December of 2014 the Padres, Nationals, and Rays agreed to mega-deal that involved 11 players AND a Player to Be Named Later. So, what does this have to do with Turner? Well, everyone was aware of who that PTBNL would be. Trea Turner. But as I mentioned before, he wasn’t allowed to be traded yet. So Turner had to spend the beginning of the next season playing for the Padres who had already traded him. This led to a rule change in MLB before the next draft to avoid this situation ever playing out again. But where is Trea Turner now? He’s certainly no journeyman. He had an incredible start to his career with the Nationals, before being traded (again) to the Dodgers with Max Scherzer in 2021. He eventually signed a $300 million deal with the Phillies where he still plays and remains one of the best players in Major League Baseball. But is he the best PTBNL of all time? Not quite. David Ortiz Big Papi. Ever heard of him? Sure you have. But did you know he wasn’t always the mashing lefty for the Red Sox that we know and love? That’s right. Early on in David Ortiz’s career he actually struggled to find a place in the league; and at one point, was even a Player to Be Named Later in a trade. He actually started his career with the Seattle Mariners, but he doesn’t mean much to the Mariners franchise outside of being a PTBNL in a trade in 1996 with the Minnesota Twins for Dave Hollins. As a matter of fact, not only was Ortiz not the player we know on the field, he wasn’t even David Ortiz on paper. At the time, he was actually known as David Arias. You might be thinking, “Wow. The Mariners really traded BIG PAPI.” Trust me when I tell that the Twins feel even worse. Ortiz would play a handful of seasons for the Twins from 1997-2002; however, even after a solid season in 2002 with the Twins, they would go on to RELEASE Ortiz. That’s right. Even one of the greatest players to ever step foot on a baseball diamond was not only traded as PTBNL but was also outright released. Of course in 2003, David Ortiz would go on to join the Boston Red Sox. Ten All-Star games, 3 World Series Championships, a World Series MVP, and a Hall of Fame selection later, David Ortiz would go down in baseball history as one of the most feared batters of all time, and the legend we know him as today Big Papi. What is the oddest Player to Be Named Later situation? There is a rare, but always delightfully bizarre situation in which a player is traded for himself as a Player to Be Named Later. This hilariously absurd scenario is so rare that it has only happened four times in the history of Major League Baseball. Harry Chiti – traded from the then Cleveland Indians to the Mets in 1962 for a PTBNL. However, he was so bad that the Mets decided trade him back to Cleveland as the PTBNL Brad Gulden – traded (with $100,000) from the Yankees to the Mariners for Larry Milbourne and a PTBNL in 1980. Once again, he performed so poorly that the Mariners traded him back to New York as the PTBNL in the original trade. Are you sensing a theme? Dickie Noles – In 1987 the Cubs traded him to the Tigers for a Player to Be Named Later. Sadly, he didn’t do enough during the Tigers playoff run that year for them to want to keep him around. So, they shipped back to the Windy City to complete the trade as the PTBNL. John McDonald – The most recent example. He was acquired by Detroit, who clearly didn’t learn anything in 1987, from the Blue Jays in 2005 for, that’s right, a PTBNL. Later that year, he was sent back to Canada for cash considerations. There you go. Next time you’re hanging out with your buddies on the back porch naming random athletes from your pass, feel free to drop in a “Dickie Noles” reference and explain the wonderful scenario of him being traded for himself. Baseball is such a beautiful sport in so many ways. For many of us, it’s the first sport we play as children, or the sport we remember watching with our grandparents on the living room floor. It has such an iconic and rich history. It’s known as “America’s past time” for a reason. But throughout that history, there are so many things that have happened that can only be described as strange and uniquely baseball. And that’s why we love it. So, when you’re scrolling social media or watching ESPN this trade deadline season and see that stud middle reliever traded for nothing but a Player to Be Named Later, maybe you won’t just brush it off this time around. Maybe you’ll wait to see who that player becomes, and maybe they’ll end up being another great piece of baseball trivia.
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