PFF Grades And Statistical Deep Dive Saints | NFL

Jamie UK • September 26, 2023

PFF Grades And Statistical Deep Dive Into The Saints Week 3 Loss Against The Packers

        There’s a lot to break down from the Saints loss to the Packers each week I take a look through the advanced statistics provided by PFF to see what nuggets I can find. Stats don’t tell the whole story of a game, but it does sometimes when given context give you so much useful info you wouldn’t realize about.

How the grades work:

Top 5 Offensive Grades

        Not surprising that Olave leads the Saints in PFF’s offensive grade, he was excellent again on Sunday and made some tough catches his Elite grade reflects that too. The rest of the grades I think reflect how dysfunctional the offense was on Sunday all 4 of the remaining top 5 were players who didn’t play the full complement of snaps, therefore fewer plays for PFF to grade unfavorably.


Bottom 5 Offensive Grades

        Not surprised to see Landon Young grade out this low, he played very few snaps and lost quickly on a sack of Jameis Winston. Juwan Johnson continues his poor start to the start of the season (or at least PFF thinks so). It was clear Carr struggled in this game but he did hit some big throws (namely the one to Olave down the right sideline) so I'm surprised he was this low but this would imply PFF have seen a few warts that are not related to the protection here. Shaheed is a curious one but to point out his grade here won't include his punt return which would fall under PFF’s special teams grade which he scored 86.8 in the punt game and 58.8 in kickoffs. He continues regardless of PFF rating has performed far better as a punt returner than a kick returner and I'd like to see the Saints use someone else to return kick-offs (maybe Bowden), too many times Shaheed is choosing to return kicks and not make it back to the 25.


Top 5 Defensive Grades

        Lonnie Johnson Jr. leads the way for the defense, he was impactful in limited reps, he played all his 8 snaps at FS, didn’t surrender a catch, and had the interception. I thought Yiadom played really well considering he’s mainly been a special team player, I'll get into his coverage stats shortly. Encouraged to see Isaiah Foskey grade out well, I’ll be honest I didn’t notice him much in the game but PFF saw something.


Bottom 5 Defensive Grades

        Surprised to see Davis and Lattimore so low this is where I don’t massively agree with the grades. Both Davis and Lattimore didn’t give up much in coverage at all (Davis was targeted 6 times and gave up 2 catches for 12 yards, Davis wasn’t credited for a missed tackle either (it looked like he missed one the goal-line on the Jordan Love TD run) which usually dings the grade, so I don’t see why they are this low. More on Lattimore’s coverage shortly. Werner on the other hand struggled in coverage this game, he ended up being targeted 7 times giving up 7 catches for 69 yards and 3 first down conversations. Werner has been solid in this area so I don’t expect this to be a weekly occurrence.


Pressure Stats

Offense 

Trevor Penning- 1 pressures (1 QB hit). Pass Blocking Efficiency Score 98.7.

James Hurst- 2 pressures (2 hurries). Pass Blocking Efficiency Score 97.4.

Erik McCoy- 2 pressures (1 sack and 1 hurry). Pass Blocking Efficiency Score 96.1.

Cesar Ruiz- 0 pressures * only played 10 snaps. Pass Blocking Efficiency Score 100.

Ryan Ramczyk- 3 pressures (2 sacks, 1 hurry). Pass Blocking Efficiency Score 93.4.

Andrus Peat- 1 pressure (1 QB hit). Pass Blocking Efficiency Score 98.3.

Landon Young- 1 pressure (1 sack). Pass Blocking Efficiency Score 66.7. YUCK! Young only played 3 pass-blocking snaps.

** Pass Blocking Efficiency - A PFF Signature stat measuring pressure allowed on a per-snap basis with weighting toward sacks allowed.


        Watching live this looked like it was Penning’s best game from a pass-blocking perspective and the stats would back that up, the efficiency score is a particular improvement. From a stats perspective, this was the Saints O-line’s best game in pass pro, only giving up 10 total pressures, compared to 12 in week 2 and 15 in week 1. Of course, it still is and needs to be cleaned up otherwise QB injuries are going to continue to happen.


Defense

Cam Jordan- 3 pressures (3 hurries).

Bryan Bresee- 2 pressures (2 hurries).

Alontae Taylor- 2 pressures (1 sack and 1 hurry)

Demario Davis- 2 pressures (1 hit and 1 hurry)

Carl Granderson- 1 pressure (1 hurry)

Khalen Saunders- 1 pressure (1 hurry)

Nathan Shepherd- 1 pressure (1 hurry)

Tanoh Kpassagnon- 1 pressure (1 hurry)


        A poor week for the pass rush. Only generated 13 total pressures against a GB line missing their starting LT and LG. The Saints generated 25 total pressures in week 2 and 23 in week 1. So, a big drop-off here and it showed in the game.  The lack of pass rush was a big reason for the Saints collapse in the fourth quarter. Jordan Love was only under pressure on 22% of his dropbacks, compared to week 1 where Ryan Tannehill was pressured on 42.5% and week 2 where Bryce Young was pressured on 48.7% of his dropbacks. That’s a big falloff for the D-line, we all had concerns about this unit entering the year I just hope that weeks 1 and 2 were the true reflection of this unit and not week 3.


Best of the rest 

Some other stats that jumped out:


  • The CBs had a really strong game in coverage overall (minus the penalties, I especially thought Yiadom’s was soft)
  • Alontae Taylor was targeted 11 times, he only surrendered 3 receptions but those 3 did go for 70 yards and all 3 were first downs. So definitely not perfect but to be targeted 11 times and only surrender 3 receptions is still a really strong showing, PFF had him credit for 5 forced incompletions and 3 PBUs. 
  • Yiadom had a similarly strong day in coverage he was targeted 10 times, surrendered only 4 catches for 30 yards, and did surrender 1 touchdown but his coverage was excellent on the play, the WR just made a heck of a catch, 3 PUBs. 
  • Lattimore wasn’t quite as elite as the first two weeks but still didn’t give up much. He was targeted 4 times and surrendered 2 catches for 24 yards, however, both catches surrendered were first downs.


Isaiah Foskey and Carl Granderson both had a good day against the run:

  • Foskey was only in on 4 running plays and had 2 defensive stops* equally a 50% stop rate
  • Granderson had 3 stops (tied for 9th most in week 3) on 20 running plays equalling a still very good 17.6% stop rate.



        The Saints had a good day rushing outside of both the tackles (outside zone?) runs. They rushed 3 times outside the LT for 19 yards (6.3 YPC) and 4 times outside the RT for 17 yards (4.3 YPC). This is a good omen with Alvin Kamara returning as these types of runs are usually a staple of his game.


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By David Rainey July 19, 2025
It’s that time of year again. The excitement of All-Star weekend and the Homerun Derby are behind us, and it’s on to the second half of the MLB season. This is the time where the great teams separate themselves from the good teams. It’s the time for teams to show whether they should be considered contenders or pretenders. And with this time of the year, of course, comes the MLB trade deadline. Arguably the most intriguing trade deadline of all the major sports. Fringe teams will have to decide whether to be buyers or sellers, and the great teams will mortgage their futures for one player they believe will take them to the promise land. Now, as out of left-field as the ending to this year’s All-Star weekend was (raise your hand if you also weren’t aware that swing offs were a thing), the MLB trade deadline features something much more curious. The Player to Be Named Later. You see, as most of us know, it’s extremely common in Major League Baseball for a team like the Padres, for example, to sell off a handful of their top prospects at the trade deadline for a lefty reliever they hope will help them navigate the difficult waters that is the postseason. But what some people aren’t aware of (outside of us baseball nerds of course) is the use of something, or someone more specifically, called the “Player to Be Named Later (PTBNL)” in these trade scenarios. For those of you who don’t know, here’s a quick explanation of what exactly the phrase “Player to Be Named Later” means. In baseball, when a team isn’t sure exactly which prospect they want in return or when they are trying to finesse the roster management rules, they will accept a “Player to Be Named Later” in return in a trade. This gives that team the opportunity to further evaluate players and choose who they want in return at a later date. This doesn’t mean that the team will just be able to choose a superstar down the road, there are limitations placed on who can be chosen, and most of the time the player ends up being just another player lost in baseball lore. However, sometimes these PTBNL turn out to be more than just a journeyman or even lead to oddities that only baseball can provide. So, what are the most famous cases of Players to Be Named Later? Well, I’m glad you asked. Let’s start with the not so unexpected scenario that actually led to the PTBNL rules to be changed. Trea Turner Before 2015, there was a rule in place in the MLB in which prevented players from being traded for a year after being drafted. Trea Turner was drafted by the San Diego Padres in the first round of the 2014 Draft which meant, you guessed it, he wasn’t eligible to be traded until the following year. However, in December of 2014 the Padres, Nationals, and Rays agreed to mega-deal that involved 11 players AND a Player to Be Named Later. So, what does this have to do with Turner? Well, everyone was aware of who that PTBNL would be. Trea Turner. But as I mentioned before, he wasn’t allowed to be traded yet. So Turner had to spend the beginning of the next season playing for the Padres who had already traded him. This led to a rule change in MLB before the next draft to avoid this situation ever playing out again. But where is Trea Turner now? He’s certainly no journeyman. He had an incredible start to his career with the Nationals, before being traded (again) to the Dodgers with Max Scherzer in 2021. He eventually signed a $300 million deal with the Phillies where he still plays and remains one of the best players in Major League Baseball. But is he the best PTBNL of all time? Not quite. David Ortiz Big Papi. Ever heard of him? Sure you have. But did you know he wasn’t always the mashing lefty for the Red Sox that we know and love? That’s right. Early on in David Ortiz’s career he actually struggled to find a place in the league; and at one point, was even a Player to Be Named Later in a trade. He actually started his career with the Seattle Mariners, but he doesn’t mean much to the Mariners franchise outside of being a PTBNL in a trade in 1996 with the Minnesota Twins for Dave Hollins. As a matter of fact, not only was Ortiz not the player we know on the field, he wasn’t even David Ortiz on paper. At the time, he was actually known as David Arias. You might be thinking, “Wow. The Mariners really traded BIG PAPI.” Trust me when I tell that the Twins feel even worse. Ortiz would play a handful of seasons for the Twins from 1997-2002; however, even after a solid season in 2002 with the Twins, they would go on to RELEASE Ortiz. That’s right. Even one of the greatest players to ever step foot on a baseball diamond was not only traded as PTBNL but was also outright released. Of course in 2003, David Ortiz would go on to join the Boston Red Sox. Ten All-Star games, 3 World Series Championships, a World Series MVP, and a Hall of Fame selection later, David Ortiz would go down in baseball history as one of the most feared batters of all time, and the legend we know him as today Big Papi. What is the oddest Player to Be Named Later situation? There is a rare, but always delightfully bizarre situation in which a player is traded for himself as a Player to Be Named Later. This hilariously absurd scenario is so rare that it has only happened four times in the history of Major League Baseball. Harry Chiti – traded from the then Cleveland Indians to the Mets in 1962 for a PTBNL. However, he was so bad that the Mets decided trade him back to Cleveland as the PTBNL Brad Gulden – traded (with $100,000) from the Yankees to the Mariners for Larry Milbourne and a PTBNL in 1980. Once again, he performed so poorly that the Mariners traded him back to New York as the PTBNL in the original trade. Are you sensing a theme? Dickie Noles – In 1987 the Cubs traded him to the Tigers for a Player to Be Named Later. Sadly, he didn’t do enough during the Tigers playoff run that year for them to want to keep him around. So, they shipped back to the Windy City to complete the trade as the PTBNL. John McDonald – The most recent example. He was acquired by Detroit, who clearly didn’t learn anything in 1987, from the Blue Jays in 2005 for, that’s right, a PTBNL. Later that year, he was sent back to Canada for cash considerations. There you go. Next time you’re hanging out with your buddies on the back porch naming random athletes from your pass, feel free to drop in a “Dickie Noles” reference and explain the wonderful scenario of him being traded for himself. Baseball is such a beautiful sport in so many ways. For many of us, it’s the first sport we play as children, or the sport we remember watching with our grandparents on the living room floor. It has such an iconic and rich history. It’s known as “America’s past time” for a reason. But throughout that history, there are so many things that have happened that can only be described as strange and uniquely baseball. And that’s why we love it. So, when you’re scrolling social media or watching ESPN this trade deadline season and see that stud middle reliever traded for nothing but a Player to Be Named Later, maybe you won’t just brush it off this time around. Maybe you’ll wait to see who that player becomes, and maybe they’ll end up being another great piece of baseball trivia.
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